Rev. Ecklof Resigns from the NAUA

What Led to My Sudden and Unexpected Resignation from NAUA

By

Rev. Dr. Todd F. Eklof

November 2025

SUMMARY STATEMENT:

After a November 5, 2025, NAUA event in which my recent resignation from the NAUA Board of Trustees was discussed, I received various requests from confused attendees for some clarification about what happened from my perspectiveIn mid-October 2025, following an otherwise routine Board of Trustees meeting of the North American Unitarian Association (NAUA), I received a disrespectful and unprofessional email from a newly elected board member, Mr. Lincoln Baxter. His communication, sent to me and copied to the entire Board, was hostile in tone and language. When I objected to this treatment, stating I would be unable to work with him and would resign if he did not, I received no apology or acknowledgment from him or from the Board that day. Instead, he sent board members additional communications that were far more inappropriate than the first. The following morning, NAUA co-founder and Trustee Dr. Stephen Polmar wrote to the Board, stating that he found Mr. Baxter’s behavior unacceptable and that he, too, could not continue serving if such conduct were tolerated. No action as further inappropriate communications followed from Mr. Baxter—including an email excluding me but sent to the rest of the Board—containing false and disparaging statements about my leadership and asking that the Board and NAUA move forward without me.

When it became evident that Mr. Baxter wouldn’t be asked to leave and was unwilling to uphold the respectful standards expected of a liberal religious organization, I determined that I could not remain part of it. On October 18, 2025, I formally resigned from the Board of Trustees. Dr. Polmar resigned shortly thereafter, citing similar concerns about having his character attacked. My decision was not made lightly. As its founder, I have deep affection for the NAUA’s mission to uphold freedom, reason, tolerance, and human dignity within liberal religion. However, I cannot participate in a governance culture that permits personal attacks, unethical behavior, or the erosion of these foundational principles. I continue to wish the NAUA, it Board of Trustees, and its members well in their pursuit of these shared values.

EXPLANATION OF THE FOLLOWING EMAILS AND EXPLANATORY COMMENTS:

What follows is a series of email communications occurring between October 16, 2025, and October 18, 2025, that led to my resignation as President of NAUA’s Board of Trustees. Believing their contents speak for themselves, I have offered minimal context, presented with bold text, and indicated by the term: EXPLANATORY CONTEXT.

EXPLANATORY CONTEXT #1:

On October 15, 2025, NAUA held its first Board of Trustees meeting that included its newest duly elected Board of Trustees members, including Mr. Lincoln Baxter. Although I found him rather boisterous and the two of us, among others, disagreed on some issues, there was nothing overly hostile about the meeting or our interactions. The next morning, I received the following email from Mr. Baxter, sent to me but copied to the entire Board:

Hi Todd.

Today is not Monday or Tuesday.

A message like this should really ONLY be sent on Mondays and Tuesdays assuming you consider these non work days, but not in response to every email on other days of the week. Bitching about the volume of email in this way is not helpful; it make it seem like you need some help sorting your email… would you like some help? As president of the Board of the NAUA you have an obligation to respond at least to NAUA board members, and to any email that is routed to you as a board member. This message is just asking for yet more emails (including this one) when you don’t respond, especially when you don’t provide “another way”.

Lincoln

EXPLANATORY CONTEXT #2:

This message was in response to the following outgoing email that anyone sending me an email receives: Thank you for your message. I don’t attend to emails on Mondays or Tuesdays. More broadly, I’m trying to reclaim some balance in a world that demands constant response. The volume of email today is more than any human can reasonably manage. I’ll do my best to reply when I can, but if you don’t hear back, please feel free to try again or reach out another way.

Thanks for understanding,

Todd

EXPLANATORY CONTEXT #3:

I found the tone and language of Mr. Baxter’s communication incredibly offensive and replied to all as follows: Who do you think you are! Don’t ever speak to me like this again, understand! EXPLANATORY CONTEXT #4: By the end of the day, having received no response, let alone any apology, and having personally committed, especially in recent years, not to participate in hostile or disrespectful relationships, I sent the following email to the Board of Trustees:

Dear fellow board members,

My day has been so greatly disturbed by Lincoln’s incredibly disrespectful and toxic email this morning that I have decided I will not be able to continue serving with him. One of us will have to resign.

With regrets, my decision is final.

Todd

EXPLANATORY CONTEXT #4:

The next morning, October 16, 2025, the entire Board received the following email from Dr. Stephen Polmar, a fellow Trustee and co-founder of NAUA:

Dear Board Members,

Earlier today I responded to an e-mail from Lincoln Baxter in which he requested the following of me, “In the future, I’m going to ask you to manage Todd”. I told Lincoln that I could not do that even if I wanted to, which I don’t. In my response I also made what I thought might be some constructive suggestions to restore both collegiality and functionality to the Board.

However, after re-reading Lincoln e-mail I have come to the conclusion that I too would not be able to continue as a Board member and Secretary of the Board if Lincoln remained on the Board. His email to Todd showed a lack of self-control, maturity and judgement, to say nothing of disrespect for a colleague. That is not what is expected of a Board member. If I made a statement that Lincoln disagreed with or happen to have an out of office message sent when he wanted to reach me, would I too be subjected to that degree of verbal abuse?

We are all volunteers, some of us with other jobs that have significant demands. A bit of understanding and tolerance would have been appropriate. It is with deep regret that, for the above-mentioned reasons as well as for concern for the future of NAUA, I am asking Lincoln Baxter to resign from the Board of Trustees. I do not believe that I can serve on the Board with him. If he chooses not to do so, I will resign my position as a member of the Board of Trustee and as Secretary of the Board.

Sincerely,

Stephen

EXPLANATORY CONTEXT #5:

To my knowledge, there was no reply to Mr. Polmar’s email, but I was astonished and troubled to learn Mr. Baxter had reached out to another Board member asking him to “manage” me. It made me wonder if he had. joined the board with a personal agenda in mind.

The next day, October 17, 2025, another new Trustee, Dr. Mark Reimers, sent the following reply to Mr. Baxter, which I received in the reply he copied to the entire board, myself included:

Hi Lincoln,

May I reach out to you, even though we haven’t met? Like you, I think that a virtual organization like NAUA needs to operate communications technology well; you have some facility with technology, and you offered to help. However, I was also startled and dismayed by the abrupt tone you took in your broadcast email message to Todd. I think you may be from the northeast and you may be more direct and unfiltered in your speech than most people. The board now seems to have a major rift. For the sake of our shared liberal religious mission, would you consider at least apologizing for your message’s abrupt tone?

Regards,

Mark

EXPLANATORY CONTEXT #6:

Mr. Baxter sent the following reply, copying the entire Board, soon thereafter (presented with its original font sizes, bold letters, anditalicizes):

To Mark: In a word yes, Absolutely.

Todd: I apologize. My message was over the top. Mark has in many ways nailed who I am: I did grow up in New England, and I do think (and speak) very directly, and I recognize that this can get me into trouble. I recognize I was way, way too harsh. What can be dealt with much more easily in a face to face conversion, can come across very badly in email (especially when in a hurry or in annoyance). And it did. And what I wanted to communicate was, I think, totally missed because of the tone and the medium. I’m sorry. Reconciliation would be nice, but I’m not sure its possible. This response to me did not help: “Who do you think you are! Don’t ever speak to me like this again, understand!” Now, I recognize that this was much an immediate reaction to my message to you, as my message was to you. But I’m willing to let it go.

But, since you asked, I have an answer to your question: I am a human being, 5th generation Unitarian, whose parents started a church of now 250+ members, a member of the NAUA, a member of the NAUA board, who has has some things to offer, who has promoted you for years (to my harm locally). I also have expectations, especially of leadership.

If your tone (which was I think worse than mine) were a little different (you are a pastor after all), if you had expressed your response differently, even said “we need to talk”, I would have quickly offered a public apology. Instead I decided to drop it and hope (obviously in vain) that it would pass. Frankly, I would have wanted reconciliation, AND understanding, but It is the second half of this that I now worry about. Part of reconciliation IS understanding (even if not agreement).

I understand your need to set expectations around managing your email (every one has this problem), and I think you need help, but I gather you have no interest in this. Your apparent aversion to email is problematic for someone who represents himself as a leader of a distributed organization. While I believe everything I said in my message, it should have been said much, much, more diplomatically. I was reacting in a hurry (just as you were in your response). I should have let my message sit, and come back to it to express it differently. Had I done so, I undoubtedly would have significantly toned it down. Instead I let my annoyance get the better of me, and hit send.

On reflection, the right way for me to have handled this would have been to ask for a board conversation about it. I subsequently did this as a requested agenda item for the next board meeting that I send to

Stephen.

Again, with apologies (and explanation), I’m sorry.

Lincoln

EXPLANATORY CONTEXT #7:

This apology, that ends up blaming me for his behavior, notwithstanding, was soon followed on the same day with another three-page email from Mr. Baxter to the entire Board of Trustees, excluding me, although it was forwarded to me by another deeply concerned Trustee: This a long (and serious) email I have worked on for hours, please read all the way through it. By now, you should have received my public apology to Todd. Todd is NOT included in THIS message, It is only sent to you board members, because I think you as a board have a crucial decision to make.

My first inclination after Stephen requested that I resign was to just do it. It would have been easy. It would gotten me out of what I see as a big time commitment. If I did resign I can tell you that I would probably walk away from supporting our website as well, not that I wouldn’t make myself available to answer questions when they come up (because I care about and like the people), I would. But I would not invest the significant energy I was planning to invest. To give you an idea: I don’t like the tools the website was developed with (nor its current design). I think it needs to be redesigned (simplified) and re-implemented in more commonly used WordPress tools (the WordPress Gutenberg block editor) that are easier for non-technical people to work with. And it needs to provide at least some of the functions I think Todd was looking for in a church app. I was willing to work slowly to migrate toward that end. At this point I am coming to the conclusion that if the NAUA were going to spend more money on technology, it should develop a specification, and do a request for proposal (RFP) to get a cost to reimplement it using the the WordPress Gutenberg block editor. Or hire a consultant to work with me and Joanne to migrate the site/ It would probably take on the order of a several weeks full time once we knew how we wanted to simplify it.

Instead, I will largely be done with the NAUA. I have come to the conclusion that while Todd was the inspiration for the NAUA, he is controlling it in a way that is likely to it’s detriment. In a distributed organization where there are really only a few hours a day when every one is available, it is even more important to use the asynchronous communication tools we have available to us.

Todd does not know me, (I can barely count on one hand my direct conversations with him, and that only after sermons he delivered in Zoom meetings.) Though I have invested many many hours supporting him and his cause, and the NAUA, now I wonder if that was time well spent. I can say that what I have learned about Todd (both from past conversations with other members, in the summit, and this incident, is extremely disappointing. He appears (despite being a Minister) not to be one who seeks reconciliation (and understanding). Rather, it appears he is more a bully who wants it his way, or no way. This was one of the reasons listed by the UUMA for disfellowhipping him. I didn’t treat that with much credence until now. This makes me very concerned about the NAUA.

Yes Todd started the NAUA, but in many ways he thinks he still owns it. And he has prevented it from becoming what I think many who initially joined expected it to become: a splinter denomination. Maybe he is right about that, but I think this is something the membership should decide, after much discussion and discernment. Read Judi Durham Summit report. Todd has foreclosed that discussion. If Todd does not get his way he will walk. That is clear. He said as much to all of you (and me), and he said it was “non negotiable.” He said toward the end of our last meeting when one of you questioned if this was the right time to watch his video: “…this is MY meeting…” and he showed the video. At the same time, he refused to allow me to show him how he could have much of what he wanted on his cell phone using our existing web technology. That was very revealing to me.

Further, that last agenda item annoyed me. It was his attempt to bring up a subject that I know the previous board had already made a (good) decision about, less than 6 months ago. I think he was hoping that with new members on the board he would get a different answer. I was pleased you pushed back. I think he was a very underhanded in this tactic. And that was very revealing. Why am I saying this? Because I think you AS A BOARD have a decision to make. What is the NAUA if Todd is not running it? Todd has already declared that he’s walking away in less than a year anyway. I think the board needs a different president, and it needs to decide BIG picture what the NAUA really is, and what it really stands for (minus Todd). Perhaps now is the time to start that process, I think that process will take time, maybe a good part of the year, to come to consensus about. One thing we didn’t do with respect to the “strategic plan” was ask this question. To not do so now, will just postpone those decisions. When we talked about doing a fund raising campaign I found my self thinking: What are we fund raising for? Do we know? Can we articulate it? Why should people donate? What’s in it for them?

The reason I have not already resigned at Stephen’s request, is that I do not think my leaving is a decision Stephen alone should make. I think this is a decision you have to make as a board. Do you want bend down to Todd’s ultimatum, or do you want to start to move the NAUA toward a future without Todd. I’m told by one member, that this is the third ultimatum that Todd has delivered in that members knowledge. One thing I am fairly sure of at this point is that Todd will not change his stripes. And he is certainly not acting as a pastor. In the meantime, I have withheld my resignation, because I care about the future of the NAUA, and I think you should be the ones making this decision and you should discuss it. If Stephen can not work with me, then if you keep me, you may loose both Todd and Stephen. I want to reach consensus, and I think I can work with Stephen. Some of you have experience working with me. Perhaps you can sway Stephen. It he still (after discussion) does not want to work with me, and your choice is keep me, then you loose both Todd and Stephen. If you submit to Todd’s ultimatum I think you only kick the can down the road.

Frankly this may be easier. You have a difficult choice. I could make this easy for you (and me) and just resign, but then you will not have had serious discussions and made hard decisions I think you have to have. Tell me what you want. I will be so guided. If you ask me resign, fine, at least you know what you are up against.

Lincoln

EXPLANATORY CONTEXT #8:

(Again, the font sizes, italics, underlines, in the above letter are original.)

In addition to being full of many falsehoods and fabrications about board decisions and similar ultimatums that Mr. Baxter accuses me of, which I won’t trouble myself going into, this letter suggests he has given much prior thought to the direction NAUA needs to go, without me. That he sent this to the entire Board of Trustees, excluding me, is entirely inappropriate. Yet, I decided to let it go and allow the rest of the Board to consider what was happening. Instead, to my dismay and surprise, the next day, October 18, 2025, I received another email indicating a small group of Trustees, outside of any proper board proceedings, had gotten together to formulate their own plan of action:

Rev. Todd/Stephen/Lincoln,

Even while on vacation on a riverboat on the Rhone River in France, I broke away for an hourto have a Zoom call with 4 other members of the NAUA board not directly involved in the  email exchange that has recently transpired between you three to discuss how best to respond to words and threatened actions that so deeply impact the future of the NAUA.

We unanimously agreed that a religious organization that prides itself on respecting freedom, reason, and tolerance should go to great lengths to attempt a reconciliation between the aggrieved parties. As a result of our meeting, Roy Dickerson has agreed to reach out to you three to discuss a process of reconciliation, which even if not ultimately successful, would at least benefit this board and provide the stable leadership it needs to remain a beacon of liberal religion in a world increasingly hostile to it.

With best wishes,

Bob Simoni

NAUA Treasurer

EXPLANATORY CONTEXT #9:

It remains difficult for me to believe that Mr. Baxter’s series of disrespectful and slanderous emails during the 24-hour period following his first official Board meeting were being ignored and that some felt it proper to decide that I would have to enter into a process of “reconciliation” because this has something to do with freedom, reason, and tolerance? To be clear, if human dignity, upheld through reason, freedom, and tolerance are to be equated with “reconciliation,” there would be no NAUA to begin with because we’d all still be part the UUA working to reconcile our differences. It had, thus, become clear Mr. Baxter’s problematic behavior would not be addressed, so I submitted my resignation on October 18, 2025.

Dear NAUA Board of Trustees,

Considering recent issues, it is with regret and finality that I am submitting my resignation from the NAUA Board of Trustees. As if Lincoln Baxter’s initial disrespect for me wasn’t egregious enough, that he went further by sending a private communication asking another board member to “handle” me from now on, followed by an additional communication to the entire board, excluding me, further demeaning me, and asking the board to take control and move NAUA in a new direction, is beyond acceptable behavior. Now I learn some think such abuse requires me, the victim of such disregard and treachery, to reconcile because it is the “right thing to do.” As the victim of extreme child abuse for the first third of my life, and as man whose country has been taken over by an authoritarian bully, and who has been defrocked after standing up to, not reconciling with, the abuses of the UUA, no thank you! I alone choose who I will and won’t be in relationship with, and, as I stated I would in my initial email on this matter, I have now done so. With that said, I have deep fondness and appreciation for those of you on the Board (with one exception, of course), appreciate your good intentions, and wish you well in the coming months. I will do my best to continue to support NAUA in whatever ways I’m most comfortable with.

Thank you,

Todd

EXPLANATORY CONTEXT #10:

To my further dismay, failing to remove me and other former members of the Board from their group list, I received another disturbing and distorted email generated by another Board member, who was likely the source of Mr. Baxter’s false claim that I had made previous “threats” of resignation. This same individual would be an inevitable source of Stephen Polmar’s resignation on October 24, 2025:

To the Members of the Board of Trustees of the North American Unitarian Association:

This is to inform you that effective immediately, I resign my position as Secretary of the Board of Trustees and also resign as a member of the Board of Trustees. In addition, I resign, also effective immediately, my position as Chairperson of the International Alliance Committee, Co-chairperson of the Strategic Plan Oversight Team and my membership on the NAUA Academy Advisory Board. In addition, I resign my membership in the North American Unitarian Association itself.

I am taking this action in part because of the deplorable actions of Lincoln Baxter at the last Board meeting and his subsequent e mail accusations which led to the resignation of Board President of Rev. Dr. Todd Eklof, the founder of NAUA. I dismiss the subsequent petty ad hominem attacks upon me by Bob Simoni as merely infantile behavior. However, perhaps even more significant, is my total lack of confidence in this dysfunctional Board to support NAUA’s stated Vision to “Empower Liberal Religion to Survive and Thrive” and to ensure the future of NAUA. For these reasons my relationship with NAUA has now come to an end.

Peace,

Stephen Polmar

EXPLANATORY CONTEXT #11:

A subsequent email was sent by Dr. Polmar the following day (October 25, 2025):

Dear Board members,

I have resigned from NAUA. It is no longer part of my life as it had been since early 2023. I ask those of you with any compassion to ask Bob to stop taunting me and leave me in peace. Please remove me from your mailing list, I have moved on.

Stephen

EXPLANATORY CONTEXT #12:

My sudden resignation from NAUA comes unexpectedly for many, including myself. Again, I have attempted to add only the most necessary commentary to provide context and timing of the email communications presented herein, as I believe they speak for themselves.

On a personal note, I know there are many good people on NAUA’s Board of Trustees who now find themselves in extraordinarily difficult circumstances to navigate, and I wish them all the best. I, however, cannot remain part of a board that maintains support for the sort of untenable behavior that should be obvious, including explicitly calling for a coup.

To conclude, and as a reminder, the NAUA’s website states explicitly that “The North American Unitarian Association (NAUA) is a service organization dedicated to supporting and promoting the practice of liberal religion by embracing freedom, reason, and tolerance – all rooted in our commitment to human dignity without requiring adherence to any specific theological creed.” Before allowing anyone to join, it explicitly asks, “Do you agree to join the NAUA in good faith with a sincere interest to support its Mission?” There is a box to check, “Yes. ” Mr. Baxter stated that he represents the sentiments of members who did not “sign up for this.” For those reading this, if you are or have been a member of NAUA and joined in good faith, I ask you to consider if this statement represents your values

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Izabelle Castaneda
25 days ago

Great topic and excellent execution. Subscribed for updates.

Alana Graham
Alana Graham
25 days ago

It has always amazed me that new members to a board, a volunteer or even work organization, feel that they need to start changing things right away. That a new person feels that they should tell everyone how things should go, criticizing others and making demands. New people need to be quiet and listen before making suggestions but then listening isn’t so popular today. This is all so sad.

Julie
Julie
25 days ago

Thanks for printing this. In the interests of transparency, as many NAUA members as possible need to become aware of why Rev. Eklof left NAUA. We never had transparency with UUA. NAUA needs to change that lack of transparency–not repeat it.

Nils Greger Olsson
Nils Greger Olsson
25 days ago

I have followed with great interest Rev. Todd Eklof’s efforts to help people better understand the world we live in, so I was dismayed to learn of his resigning from NAUA because of misguided actions by others. Todd is the most intelligent and caring minister I have known. Because I am a psychologist (Ph.D. in human research, not clinical), I sought to better understand the dynamics of how events like this occur. Previously I knew someone who rather successfully destroyed a volunteer organization with his tone-deaf persona. Having used ChatGPT-5 Pro version for a variety of research I am involved… Read more »

Mel
Mel
23 days ago

It’s fascinating how responsive ChatGPT is to confirmation bias.

Miles Fidelman
Miles Fidelman
25 days ago

It strikes me that Rev. Ecklof’s resignation is rather inappropriate, absent a vote of no confidence and a request from fellow Board members. And if anything, the Board should refuse to accept Rev. Ecklof’s resignation, or at least formally ask him to reconsider. It strikes me as particularly inappropriate in that the NAUA exists as a direct result of exclusionary behavior by UUA “leadership” and Rev. Ecklof’s dismissal from fellowship with the UU Minister’s Association – for daring to voice his opinions. Let me further note that the UUA’s original first principle was “(we) unite in seeking: 1. To strengthen… Read more »

Joyce Kinnear
Joyce Kinnear
24 days ago
Reply to  Miles Fidelman

At this point, it looks like a dispute between rude emails and egos, but I could be wrong. Hopefully it will all be worked out eventually. I don’t think either party looks incredibly great at the moment. Things like this do happen in groups though.

Steve
Steve
24 days ago
Reply to  Joyce Kinnear

Healthful boundaries help protect individuals, relationships and institutions. Todd set an e-boundary that Lincoln rudely critiqued instead of asking for another way to reach out. I don’t view Lincoln’s first message as toxic or extreme, but I can understand why it felt that way. Todd’s reaction is understandable if his nerves are threadbare. I can’t imagine how they couldn’t be after his long, exhausting slog. I’m deeply grateful for his many years of wisdom and work. And I’m deeply concerned for his well being, so I support his decision to retreat. I’ve seen so many hours of Todd online that… Read more »

Tom Renolds
Tom Renolds
24 days ago

As a NAUA member, I am very disappointed in how one board member could force through lies and verbal harassment another board member (actually two board members) to resign, and then the board itself take no action to punish the offending member. Reconciliation has become the cover for not telling the membership the truth about what has transpired and for operating as if it could still be business as usual. In doing so, I feel that the Board itself has become complicit in the lose of our founder to the whole organization. Thanks to the Fifth Principle Project for posting… Read more »

Mel
Mel
24 days ago
Reply to  Tom Renolds

No one forced anyone to resign, nor were there lies and harassment. There was a personal conflict, followed by a unilateral ultimatum, followed very quickly by a resignation.

Joyce Kinnear
Joyce Kinnear
24 days ago
Reply to  Mel

Exactly

Liz
Liz
21 days ago
Reply to  Tom Renolds

Someone writes an email that is a bit a rude and the other member resigns immediately saying it is a final decision. Honestly this is all very childish and probably for the best that the resignation was final.

Jim
Jim
21 days ago
Reply to  Liz

Nicely put. Although I would add that the “member who resigns” happens to be the founder of NAUA and President of the Board and the rude e-mailer is a brand new member. You can’t dismiss this without acknowledging this power imbalance. So, to be clear, the “resigner” is absorbed in infantile narcissistic rage and the rude e-mailer is caught in the crosshairs of founder’s very sad emotional meltdown.

Liz
Liz
19 days ago
Reply to  Jim

Yes that is very true, since he was saying “make him resign or I will” he was trying to force the resignation of the new member because he didn’t like the tone of one email. It was beyond time to lose the founding member if you want the organisation to survive. Unfortunately I think that it was founded on personal grievances and bitterness and I don’t think the organisation will recover.

Karen
Karen
24 days ago

Did these folks all consent to having their emails publicly posted? If not, it seems to me a bit unfair and disrespectful (not to mention unseemly) to publicly post their emails. Less is more. (Or is drama and “clicks” more important than respecting the dignity and worth of persons, these days?)

paul thompson
paul thompson
24 days ago

One of the passages reads “Earlier today I responded to an e-mail from Lincoln Baxter in which he requested the following of me, “In the future, I’m going to ask you to manage Todd”. I told Lincoln that I could not do that even if I wanted to, which I don’t. In my response I also made what I thought might be some constructive suggestions to restore both collegiality and functionality to the Board.” The statement “In the future, I’m going to ask you to manage Todd” is not appropriate in tone or in content. Lincoln’s later comments did little… Read more »

Jim
Jim
24 days ago

The creation of scapegoats has a long and dishonorable tradition; being used by those in power to shift blame and avoid accountability.

So, let’s do this the old fashioned way. Let’s burn Lincoln at the stake and leave his charred remains as a warning to anyone else who might be thinking of challenging the nobility and puissance of the Founder. (Really ironic since the Founder, himself, was not so long ago subjected to similar treatment.)

Mel
Mel
24 days ago
Reply to  Jim

Good for you!

David Willkomm
David Willkomm
24 days ago

Thank you 5th Principle for posting this info! Going forward, I see an opportunity to advance NAUA to the UU faith community. Several weeks ago, I had email exchanges with Dr. Polmar about NAUA generating podcasts to UU fellowships, needing sermons/homilies for their Sunday services. He said the Board was interested in my idea, and I shared info on how the UUA’s Sermon of the Month is already servicing this need to my fellowship. Recently, I was informed by Dr. Polmar to contact his replacement Roy Dickerson for further involvement, which I plan to do. Hopefully, Rev. Ecklof would be… Read more »

Steve Myles
Steve Myles
24 days ago

Dear Fifth Principle Project – What was the purpose for posting this documentation? Although I am greatly disturbed to read of their behaviors, this is an issue internal to the NAUA Board of Trustees and needs to be resolved within that group using their individual “consciences” and their “democratic processes.” Transparency like this helps no one.

Jay Kiskel, Fifthprincipleproject.org
Reply to  Steve Myles

Steve, knowledge is power. We at the Fifth Principle Project have dedicated our energies for five years encourging UUA leaders to be honest and open about internal debates. They resisted. We failed. We now see the NAUA, an organization we support, exhibiting similar behaviors. Boards should not, in our opinion, “make” decisions, but rather create the environment so members can make decisions about the direction of the organization. Members making decisions is the democratic process. We want the NAUA to be successful! We believe that people should have access to information so they can formulate their own opinions and craft… Read more »

Steve Myles
Steve Myles
24 days ago

Jay – yes, I disagree. I completely agree that Boards should be transparent and responsive to the general NAUA membership but NAUA members do not need to know of Internal personality conflicts and nasty back and forth emails among Board members. Those serve no purpose in increasing membership knowledge on matters of organization policy and direction which is where transparency matters.

Jim
Jim
24 days ago
Reply to  Steve Myles

Yeah, I disagree also. I completely agree with Steve Myles.

“Transparency” can be manipulated.

How do you know you have all the information? You only have that released by those who don’t seem to have ethical concerns about doing so.

Anna
Anna
24 days ago
Reply to  Jim

Agree with Jim and Steve. I don’t think these emails should have been published. Beyond them being internal emails and reprinting them seeming rather unseemly, they don’t prove anything to me.

Rebecca Pace
Rebecca Pace
23 days ago
Reply to  Steve Myles

I agree with Steve, Jim, and Anna.This is an internal NAUA Board issue. The release without permission of all the participants only raises doubts about the NAUA itself.Many people have come to see the NAUA as a vital lifeline to their community.

Terri
Terri
13 days ago

Glad to finally see this page and these posts! I totally agree with you, Jay. This is an issue for members to decide, and there’s no way they can do that if they’re not fully informed. Thanks to the fearless Fifth Principle Project, NAUA members and others can now determine their best way forward, as they check out what you’ve posted, and all the comments that follow. This is the Unitarian/Unitarian Universalism/whatever-we’re-calling-ourselves-these-days system working the way it should, and you and Frank coming in clutch yet again, just when it was needed most. Many thanks, at this most appropriate time… Read more »

Barbara Warren
Barbara Warren
24 days ago

At the first sign of tension, an objective, unaffiliated, professional mediator should have been hired.

Last edited 24 days ago by Barbara Warren
Tristen Mcknight
24 days ago

This is my first time pay a quick visit at here and i am really happy to read everthing at one place

Aspen
Aspen
24 days ago

I am very sad about this certainly
Rev. Todd is not wrong for this I think ultimately we need to hold cordial working environment and I think this wasn’t that.

Unbecoming behavior from Lincoln and also not in line with a liberal religion or working cooperatively in a volunteer position. We must be charitable within reason towards each other.

It’s an escalation which creates division in a fledgling movement like NAUA .

I can’t bear to see another disruption that leads to a further crippling of liberal religion and the Unitarian tradition.

Last edited 24 days ago by Aspen
John Eichrodt
John Eichrodt
24 days ago

The NAUA’s mission is to preserve our classic Liberal Unitarian Faith.
I do not believe that resignation in this context is appropriate.
John Eichrodt, J.D.

Linda Volkersz
24 days ago

So sad to hear of hurt feelings and misunderstandings. My observation is –
this was EMAIL communication. Feelings need to be discussed in person.

Rebecca Pace
Rebecca Pace
24 days ago

I am very disappointed that FFP posted this e-mail dump. This only smears the reputation of all parties involved and makes the NAUA look bad. I am aware that the material was circulating privately, but publicly posting it only compounds the damage.  This has become a tit-for-tat blame game. The “context” leaves many unanswered questions. Todd says there were phone calls, discussions, and attempts to mediate, but he rejected and was actually offended by, the offer.  As for saying new board members should hold their tongues—most new non-profit board members have been around an organization long enough and have enough understanding about the operations… Read more »

Gianni Fogliano
Gianni Fogliano
22 days ago
Reply to  Rebecca Pace

“Todd says there were phone calls, discussions, and attempts to mediate, but he rejected and was actually offended by, the offer.” Perfectly captures the reason he was removed from fellowship.

Julie
Julie
24 days ago

I encourage people who want something from the NAUA Board regarding this situation to email them all and let them know directly. It’s quite possible that none of the Board members are reading this web site’s comments and so they may not know what members want from them at all.

Pat Mohr
Pat Mohr
23 days ago

I agree with Steve et al that posting the details of this conflict (with names and emails) was inappropriate and damaging to NAUA. Yes, we want transparency, but this is not best practice in any HR dept I’ve ever worked with. It sounds like ego was involved on both sides, but I even though I respect Todd, I worked with Lincoln for two years in Save the 7 principles. He is passionate about UU and speaks his mind, but he is not a bully. Yet, your post seemed to invite us to take sides. Again, inappropriate and damaging to a… Read more »

Steve
Steve
23 days ago

I feel the collective distress of processing the featured e-tempest. But as a journalist, I think it’s newsworthy. The resignation of Todd and others is a big deal. Naturally, most NAUA members are curious to know why it happened pursuant to the search for truth and meaning. I hope the stewards of the NAUA’s Liberal Beacon embrace the opportunity to report on it impartially and with due context. The vast majority of organizational infighting is unremarkable (TMI). But this is consequential. To many, it’s disappointing and upsetting — even embarrassing. Nevertheless, I’d rather receive unbecoming truths than pretty lies or… Read more »

Karen
Karen
23 days ago

Well, this doesn’t reflect well on the NAUA or the leaders involved. How unfortunate.

Julie
Julie
22 days ago

I do think this is newsworthy and I don’t think posting the news necessarily invites us to take sides. Some people would do that anyway once they found out the news in whatever way they found it out. And I don’t think it’s a flaw to take a side in a coup, a war or any conflict. Sometimes one party is far more in the right than the other

Jim
Jim
22 days ago
Reply to  WebMaster

left their positions in a non-democratic way

LOL. Non-democratic, indeed, as in “if you don’t do what I want I will resign” or “I’m outta here until a duly elected Board Member resigns because I say so… and I’m going to break confidentiality ethics, against the wishes of the [duly elected] Board, to demean their character until they do”

Yes, absolutely, there’s nothing democratic about resignation power-tripping.

Anna
Anna
22 days ago
Reply to  WebMaster

It seems as if there were interpersonal conflicts and perhaps different visions, as is apt to happen on any board or organization. Members are free to quit any time they wish, and I don’t begrudge a member for resigning from what is an unpaid position. New organizations and boards will have growing pains and conflicts.

My main issue is I don’t find the email exchange revealing. A few back-and-forth private emails don’t show me much or reveal a “larger issue.” An explanatory article without the emails may have been more revealing about fundamental issues.

Liz
Liz
21 days ago
Reply to  Anna

Any volunteer can resign, what is undemocratic is “I have decided I will not be able to continue serving with him. One of us will have to resign. With regrets, my decision is final.” If someone wishes to step down from a position that is well within their power and remit and appropriate boundaries, calling for someone else’s resignation under threat of your own (after one email no less) is undemocratic. The board tried to offer support for the interpersonal conflict that was happening and it was refused. The larger issue seems like just one person, who has chosen to… Read more »

Jim
Jim
21 days ago
Reply to  Liz

Again, well put. It is indeed an issue of “just one person” who happens to possess an enormous amount of power within the organization.

Liz
Liz
19 days ago
Reply to  Jim

Honestly, the fact that he resigned and they didn’t bend over backwards to stop it shows a healthier organisation, but healthy organisations can withstand the “one person” being a problem because they work to limit the damage and control and power they have. When that behaviour is not managed then it can become tyrannical no matter where the person is in the organisation. It sounds like he did them a favour by removing himself and a healthier organisation would have dealt with him sooner.

Just Unitarian
Just Unitarian
22 days ago

This doesn’t put Todd in a good light, and he’s the one that wrote it!
I hope this is the end of the conflict and the NAUA Board is able to move on with the business with which they were tasked.
Let this be a lesson to everyone to be more mindful about how they write and read emails.

Gianni Fogliano
Gianni Fogliano
22 days ago

I appreciate fifth principle project publishing this. It showcases the way Todd Ecklof and his movement have behaved all along towards the stewards of the UUA that have continually operated in good faith following the direction and policies adopted democratically by the General Assembly. I too have been on the receiving end of Lincoln’s uncontinental behavior, and as he states in his email, he engaged in such harassment on behalf of and in furtherance of Todd’s personal mission. This read has been cathartic. It is a befitting end to the gadfly saga, that begins with a man who invites his… Read more »

Last edited 22 days ago by Gianni Fogliano
Anna
Anna
22 days ago

 Reading this was like watching Rep. Marjorie Taylor Green turn on Donald Trump. Frankenstein’s monster come home to roost.”

Such hyperbole undercuts your argument and actually makes you come across as unreasonable and out of touch.

” . . . blindsides everyone he had been working with, with a book . . . “

This above too. (“Oh my god! In a liberal religion, someone wrote a book of dissent!”)

Anna
Anna
22 days ago
Reply to  Anna

I add that I don’t belong to the NAUA, but the UUA and its illiberal shenanigans turned me off some time ago. That you talk about the UUA’s “democratic processes” is itself laughable. The UUA’s own commissioned report said that GA is non-representative and undemocratic.

Where we may agree is that I consider the public posting of these emails to point to questionable judgment– but that does not absolve the UUA of its faults and mistakes.

Last edited 22 days ago by Anna
Joyce Kinnear
Joyce Kinnear
22 days ago
Reply to  Anna

Yes. Both things can be correct at the same time.

Liz
Liz
21 days ago
Reply to  Anna

Let’s be VERY clear – someone wrote a book full of lies, not just dissent. If it was just his opinions people wouldn’t care as much, it was the very calculated way that he presented things as factual which were not, or only one sided when he had full access to other viewpoints. (The LREDA conference issue for example, his own staff member was in attendance and yet he only published the views of the speaker who was upset and none of the people who were in attendance or who organised the event.) He is a very sensitive soul to… Read more »

Jim
Jim
21 days ago
Reply to  Liz

“Book full of lies” – this is pure BS. Unfortunately the writer of the book has left himself open to such attacks by his present meltdown. So, congratulations on using this opportunity to push you grudges and grievances.

It is all very sad.

Thanks to the Fifth Principle Project for providing this opportunity. Good job!

Liz
Liz
19 days ago
Reply to  Jim

It was a book of lies though, there are many very easily verifiable points that were untrue that he shared in the book, that is not to even say anything of his godawful opinions shared. People were just too lazy to notice or even question what he wrote and he wrote it in such a way that made it seem like it was well researched, very manipulative. He left himself open to the “attacks” because this is an easy window he has opened into his thought process and how he conducts himself, this is not new and has been there… Read more »

Frank Casper
Frank Casper
18 days ago
Reply to  Liz

Oh. I see. Todd wrote a book full of lies, and those who liked it either ignored the lies or embraced them. Yes, that has been the UUA party line from day one. The right says that about the left, and the left returns it. It’s simple and simple-minded. The only difference may be that the left will throw it at their own. The only thing that exceeds the stupidity of this view is how boring it has become. No matter what you post or how often, it is really just the same silly mantra. It’s a barometer of the… Read more »

Last edited 18 days ago by Frank Casper
Liz
Liz
18 days ago
Reply to  Frank Casper

I am sorry, I haven’t seen anyone who liked the book acknowledge the lies contained within. Apologies if you were someone who did so. How did you reconcile the misinformation contained in the book?
As for it being the UUA party line, like I said, I didn’t see anyone who liked the book acknowledge the lies so it doesn’t seem like any other option is really appropriate except for being ignorant of them, purposely ignoring them, or embracing them – what other options are there?

Frank Casper
Frank Casper
17 days ago
Reply to  Liz

Alot of people shared my experience in that the first thing we read was the UUA’s responses, usually on FB, as the UUA was out with their views before many had even heard of the book, much less read it. In fact, the responses came so soon after it was available that many of us wondered if those belching their bitches on FB had even read it. It was based on the number and shrillness of those responses, much like yours, that I decided to buy it. I thought I was about to read the ravings of a madman. But… Read more »

Liz
Liz
22 days ago

So someone said the outgoing email is frustrating and saying you won’t respond to emails but not giving another way to reach out means that you are unable to perform your duties as board president – and you respond with “Who do you think you are! Don’t ever speak to me like this again, understand!” Then later that same day having not recieved a response, even though you believe the volume of emails is more than humans can manage and you ask people to reach out again if they don’t hear from you…. you resign and tell everyone that your… Read more »

Jim
Jim
21 days ago
Reply to  Liz

Unfortunately, this inability to reflect upon one’s own behavior was, and still is, exhibited in the UUA as well. But, yeah, kudos to you for picking up on this. It was a fastball over the middle of the plate; like shooting fish in a barrel. Don’t be too proud.

Again, my hearty congratulations to Todd and the editors of this for your excellent work on opening the door for discrediting all the years of work that went into finding an alternative to the illiberal authoritarianism of the UUA.

What a f’ing embarrassment.

Liz
Liz
19 days ago
Reply to  Jim

I have no doubt that there are people in the UUA who struggle to self reflect also, but this could not have been written better by the most fiercely loyal UUA supporter to show what they were having to deal with and why he was removed from fellowship. And the fact that this was not leaked but self published?! I wish I could just laugh about this because it is SO ludicrous, but so many people have been hurt along the way it is not funny.

Frank Casper
Frank Casper
18 days ago
Reply to  Liz

“Hurt” is the catchall word used to cover any statement, look, or even inflection that some people in your UUism take pleasure in weaponizing. It’s childish.

Tim Johnson
Tim Johnson
21 days ago

I can’t believe the board forced Rev Dr Todd to resign. I’m not sure I can move on from this as an NAUA member. It’s no better than the UUA.

Anna
Anna
20 days ago
Reply to  Tim Johnson

I don’t know the whole process or story, but it doesn’t appear that he was forced to resign but that he resigned. Resigned under pressure?, I can only speculate. Obviously, that two board members resigned said disagreements or issues within the board were shared.

paul thompson
paul thompson
21 days ago

One key takeaway from this is that TONE in email is so difficult to get correct. How many persons here have written an email that sounded OK to the author, but was received poorly? I certainly have. It’s difficult to get right, especially if there is something critical in the email.

The solution, IMHO, is the 24 H rule – write the email, wait 24 H, re-read the email, delete the email.

Frank Casper
Frank Casper
20 days ago

I think the issue of whether this should have been made public in this way is legitimate but a distraction. It was broadcast to a relatively wide audience and did not include any privacy requests. Jay has a good point. So much of the events surrounding the UUA were cloaked in claims of privacy. Having said that, on the substance of the matter, I think those of you who raised the question of what the board did and did not do are asking the right question. Clearly, Todd thought so, as he alluded early in his piece that they weren’t… Read more »

Last edited 20 days ago by Frank Casper
paul thompson
paul thompson
20 days ago
Reply to  Frank Casper

I know, Frank, that you are reflexibly anti-MAGA. Fine. But the Manichaean separation of all issues into “good” and “evil” is not MAGA. Progressives are in that camp as well.

Frank Casper
Frank Casper
20 days ago
Reply to  paul thompson

I don’t think progressives are the same as the illiberal leftists to whom my remark is directed.

Julie
Julie
19 days ago

I suggest that anyone who has questions about how the Board will move forward, get the answer by engaging with one or more of the remaining Board members who plan to stay on the Board. I have engaged with a number of them. I have found their position to be uniform and crystal clear, though quite different from my own.

Bennett Gould
18 days ago

You’re so awesome! I don’t believe I have read a single thing like that before. So great to find someone with some original thoughts on this topic. Really.. thank you for starting this up. This website is something that is needed on the internet, someone with a little originality!

Jim
Jim
18 days ago

There are many, as I once did, who consider Rev. Eklof a hero. The problem with heroes is that they collect followers who, as the cultish tribal human species has throughout history, become enmeshed in a certain kind of co-dependent relationship where they become more sycophantic than they would normally be and less likely to question their hero. So, the hero reacts in a petty, childish fashion to a minor slight, because he cannot step down from his pedestal and deal with criticism rationally. Therefore, he must magnify the minor slight into a horrible offense that must be punished immediately.… Read more »

Julie
Julie
18 days ago
Reply to  Jim

We are each drawing our own conclusions here. Just as we will each draw our own conclusions about whether or not your slant on events is objective in any way.

Anna
Anna
18 days ago
Reply to  Julie

As Julie said, a variety of perspectives are being expressed here, with many ascribing it to common interpersonal strife in boards or groups without ascribing any “higher” meaning. As I stated earlier, a handful of internal back-and-forth emails don’t tell me much, and I make no conclusion that either of them or anyone is “the bad guy.” Anyone who jumps to a definitive conclusion from these several emails is practicing confirmation bias. Many boards and all organizations, at times, have internal strife —people with different visions, approaches, communication styles, and personalities — and I hope the organization can address the… Read more »

Last edited 18 days ago by Anna
Julie
Julie
18 days ago
Reply to  Anna

Anna, I don’t share your perspective at all either. That is partly because I have had previous experiences with Lincoln Baxter. And recent experiences with Board members regarding this situation. So I am judging in part from my own experiences with the people involved here. But yes, we will each come to our own conclusions.

Terri
Terri
13 days ago
Reply to  Julie

Glad to finally see this page and these posts! I have also had personal experiences, in a group setting, with Lincoln Baxter. He yelled at people a lot (not me), and it seemed that he was not very good at controlling himself. I don’t know if that was a function of just not being able to, or not being willing to do so. I saw this again at a recent meeting where Lincoln had to be told to use his “Zoom hand” to indicate that he wanted to speak, as he was just speaking at will up to that point,… Read more »

Suzanne
Suzanne
16 days ago
Reply to  Anna

There are some things that can be discerned from the back and forth e-mails. Mark sounds sensible. Your average new board member would have asked board members the best way to communicate with Todd to get a response. The Spokane congregation is a lot larger than your average UU church. I’ve had trouble getting ministers to respond to e-mails in churches under 200 people. Lincoln Baxter did bring up some interesting points I’ve never heard mentioned except by Todd Eklof. Todd was adamant that the organization was there to serve congregations that wanted a more traditional type of Unitarianism. It… Read more »

Julie
Julie
16 days ago

I consider many, maybe most, of the comments here, to be propaganda, to try to convince readers to agree with the commenter.

A lot of people have axes to grind. So I urge people to be aware of that, and to go back and read Rev. Eklof’s letter again. Some of the responses here sound to me like the commenter read a very different letter than the one that I read, above.

Terri
Terri
13 days ago

Glad to finally see this post and comments! Wow, check us out. We are doing what you would expect from Us and UUs – we are digging into a debate with all the gusto we can! This is an extremely important topic – the founder of the NAUA leaving his own organization – for whatever reasons. The reasons are worth digging into, whether you care more for Todd or the NAUA, or are equally fond of both. Because if we don’t find out why this happened, we are doomed to repeat it, maybe sooner rather than later, if we don’t… Read more »